Bishop T. D. Jakes’ Remarks at Funeral: He Knew Two Sides of Pastor Zach Tims

Pastor Zachery Tims' Funeral Program

Bishop T. D. Jakes’ Remarks at Funeral: He Knew Two Sides of Pastor Zach Tims

Bishop TD Jakes and many others had much to say about their fallen friend, son and brother in Christ at his homegoing service. He explained in very interesting words that Pastor Zachery Tims had two sides to him. There was a side many of his followers knew and adored but there was also a side that was filled with despair and turmoil.

Read below some of the comments from Jakes’ and others who gave their final words to Pastor Zach.

Bishop T.D. Jakes, pastor of The Potter’s House in Dallas, Texas preached the eulogy. “The greater the light, the greater the heat. If you stand in the light long enough, the light burns…. His death is a wake-up call for all of the clergy to slow down. You’re moving too fast,” Jakes preached.

The Church Lady Blogs had a report stating: Bishop Jakes went on to say: “The names represented two different sides of the same person,  just as “Dr. Tims” was different from “Zach.” He explained the two sides of Zachery Tims:

“Dr. Tims — the charismatic, compassionate spiritual leader who ministered to imperfect people — and Zach, who was an imperfect person himself.

Jakes gave some personal knowledge of who he knew as ‘Zach”:

“I thought I was the only one who know how unhappy Zach was, how broken he  was, how afraid he was if anybody was to see any flaw in him. He tried hard to heal himself, to fix himself,” said Jakes.

Later in the sermon he said, “I don’t know what happened in that hotel room… but it was Zach who died and Dr. Tims who stood up.’’

Jakes said Tims sometimes reminded him of a mischievous child who knew he was  too cute to scold.

“Zach had a way of acting like he was your kid,” Jakes said. “He would come  into your house and go straight for the refrigerator. You couldn’t say anything, because he’d bust that big old grin on you.”

Even Paula White stated: “He smiled with his eyes. His eyes showed the depth of his soul.”

Pastor Paula White of Without Walls International Church in Tampa recalled Tims speaking of his death weeks prior:

“If I die, and I don’t want to die, I want you to know I’m saved and going to heaven.”

This reminds us of how its always said that when someone passes on, they knew their time was coming. Either in words or actions, some people will express death in what they do weeks and days before it actually happens.

1 800 Gospel reported: Pastor Riva Tims, the ex-wife of Dr. Zachery Tims, reminded the congregrants of how much Tims had accomplished during his 42 years of life.

 “In his young age, he circled the globe and set goals that many would never even imagine. He fathered four beautiful children and in his 42 years, fathered thousands and thousands of spiritual children. He did a lot in those 42 years. We must take that mantle. Let us not take his death in vain.”

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11 Responses to “Bishop T. D. Jakes’ Remarks at Funeral: He Knew Two Sides of Pastor Zach Tims”

  1. Ann- Lead by Example says:

    It is time for our leaders to sit down and get the deliverance they need before representing the Body of Christ. We must hold our Pastors and Political leaders accountable to do their jobs they were called by the Lord to do in a way that does not tarnish the Gospel or the cause for Christ!

    Sadly, Pastor Zachery will go down in history not just a great Pastor to many but as a Pastor who had an affair and was found dead before his time with white powdering substance in his pockets.
    Even if this is judging the world will judge and condemn the entire body of Christ when a Public leader fails to practice what they preach!

    1st Corinthians 5:6
    1st Thessalonians 5:22

    You Pastors and leaders should know the above verses well!

  2. Mimi says:

    This does not impress me. If he knew he was doing wrong, he should have stopped. Instead, it appears that he yielded to death. Martin Luther King knew he was going to die, but he knew he was going to die in a RIGHTEOUS BATTLE. This man went out on a drug trip.
    It is very sad. But those who are familiar with addiction and are in recovery (like myself, 15 years, a day at a time, praise God) know that addicts can help everyone but themselves. The self-loathing then becomes unbearable. If TD Jakes knew another side, he should have demanded, along with other pastors, that Tims go to rehab and sit down for at least 2-3 years, if not more. TD Jakes is really boasting here and it is not a good reflection on him.
    As for Paula White’s statement: where do they get these preachers from. If he smiled with his eyes, and the eyes are a mirror to the soul, why didn’t any of you see the coke in his eyes? Why didn’t you see the sickness in his soul.
    As for Riva Tims’ comment that he fostered spiritual children.. biblically incorrect and sad that she would praise that an addict fostered “spiritual children”.
    A tragedy all around, but if he predicted his death, and continued to use drugs, then this was really a slow suicide. All addiction is a slow suicide because it all leads to jails, institutions and DEATH.
    May God take into account his disease of addiction.

  3. AT2W Staff says:

    Very insightful. There’s so much coming out that others knew. It’s amazing, we agree that other pastors didn’t try and really help him out of his misery. It’s all about money and how much he could bring to the conferences. It’s very sad.

  4. AT2W Staff says:

    That’s right, Ann. They must be accountable for how they lead the body of Christ astray. The church needs a fresh pair of eyes to see more clearly what is going on.

  5. Mimi says:

    This is the last I will say on this topic:

    I have given this much thought and I truly believe that Pastor Tims did something horrific and ignominious while he was dealing drugs for which he could not forgive himself. I don’t know if it was an actual murder which was never discovered, perhaps one of his crackhead consumers used a young daughter as payment (that happened a lot in crackville) or maybe he set someone up to go to prison for a long time. Something happened out there and he could not let it go. Sometimes, one doesn’t understand the true horror of his or her actions until they are living a normal life with CHILDREN OF THEIR OWN.

    Well, it is between him and God now. May God have mercy on his soul.

  6. AT2W Staff says:

    Anything is possible. Some are saying the investigation may know that he was not alone in the motel room but it has not be confirmed.

  7. Lance says:

    God is not playing with us anymore. Preachers , bishops, saints children of God woe be unto us. What would it profit a man if he gained the whole world and lost his soul? Mark 8:36. We have to stop covering up mess and confess like David did.

  8. AT2W Staff says:

    Thank you Lance. It seems to us that if Bishop Jakes saw so much hurt and pain in this man, he’d do everything in his power to help him. Not sure what kind of friendship this was except that alot of money must have been the benefit.

  9. Marge says:

    Bishop Jakes can’t help a person who don’t want to be helped… My brother was on drugs for many years and no one could help him until he wanted it. It’s easier said then done… The position Tims was in could’ve made him protective of his personal info therefore what could anyone do… At that point it’s up to God…

  10. Zachary Adam Cruz says:

    Lets keep the Lord in perspective here and try to understand what he wants us to learn from all this. What I see God is trying to show us is to humble ourselves. Nobody is perfect. There is a lot of pressure when your in a position of leadership and because of that we feel obligated not to show our flaws. We have no problem saying on the altar how “we have a temper problem sometimes because thats no biggie right, a lil self control issue… that will be accepted from my congregation… nobodys perfect… and im just using that as a example to help the church get of idea of the main thing im preaching about.” Pastors have no problem doing something like that i see it all the time. but i never see them ask there church to pray for them because of their temper. Thats how pastors get that holier than thou attitude and become prideful, because of the presure… but if you were called by God to be a leader be a leader dont half step. it takes a leader to admit an issue to his church. Nobody does that. If a pastor would to tell his church he has a stronghold on pornography and he is going to take a sit down, put someone else in charge, and requested that the church prays for him till he gets better and able to maintain the position again, the church will most likely look at their pastor like hes nuts. But that what the Lord wants. Everbody and their mother knows that great ol verse that makes people feel all empowered and all tingly inside that says that the prayer of a rightoues man availeth much which is james 5:16 but nobody ever quotes the words that are said before that which ARE IN THE SAME VERSE, its not like im saying nobody knows the verse before that… ITS IN THE SAME VERSEEEE, they both share the same number! and what is said before that is “THEREFORE CONFESS YOUR SINS TO EACH OTHER AND PRAY FOR EACH OTHER SO THAT YOU MAY BE HEALEDDDDDDDD fools!” But noooo, people wanna live confortably in luxury now a days and pick and choose where and when to apply the scriptures. Even tho no pastor as of yet does that (telling the church about his stronghold on pornography example) that is what the Lord would want. by doing that you humble yourself, neglect your eco and pride of something it may possibly feed from, and give hope to others. it gives people hope in becoming closer to the Lord. Thats all for now, untill next time. God bless and love you all. oh and yous are all evagelist, yous better be spreading the gospel like its the last bag of chips in the store. Not only when you choose a designated time to evangelize but all the time, when you come across someone in the gas station, the clerks in the store, your neighbors and all. dont keep your mouth shut.. the lord will hold you responsible for them. LOVE YOU. If any one needs prayer please text prayer, your name, and the field of concern to three four seven three 80 six six zero 7

  11. Mona says:

    We all need to be careful how we judge becasue the bible also says “judge not less ye be judged. Remember Jesus Himself will do the judging.

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